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Saturday, April 12th, 2014
9:13 am
[ruderod]



a sign posted on the road reads:
there is no bread
no flour
no milk
no paper
no safety
no butter

DO NOT ENTER


when insanity becomes normal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmvAdRntWH8
Sunday, January 22nd, 2012
12:11 pm
[ruderod]
cruise ship accident - Concordia running aground (not sinking! )
I keep hearing people talk trash about the captain of the Concordia. Here you go people, talking shit about something you know NOTHNIG about. Even our freaking pastor talked about it at church. Have any of you fucks ever been on a ship for more than a day?

GIVE ME A FUCKING break. The captain got most of the people out, and he kept the ship from FUCKING sinking. The ship didn't sink, its right there for everyone to see and for most of the passengers to talk about. Most everyone lived !! Give the captain and crew a break for gods sake!

Who is at FAULT? How about the fucked company who runs these ships with too little crew? How about the fucked up government who doesn't make laws to ENSURE Adequate manning of the cruiseline? How about blame our fucking bureacrats for instance? Why not blame someone else? Hoe about that?

And yes I have spent FOUR YEARS running large ships through the ocean, so I know what the fuck I am talking about. Unlike most other commentators.
Give me a break.

remember the title,
cruise ship accident - Concordia running aground (not sinking! )
x posted to liberals and greedy bastards
Saturday, September 24th, 2011
7:01 am
[ruderod]
I thought this would turn out different. I thought our society would give Troy Davis a chance. A man that few thought was guilty, and even more people knew was innocent.

I thought more people in the community would protest. I thought the state and federal government would be afraid of riots, if they did kill the man. But we as a group, we killed an innocent man. Wow. With the economy the way it is, and jobless people walking the streets, I really thought there would be some riots/protests about this one. Are people really so numb to the world nowadays? They beatup Rodney King, let the cops go and a city turned into chaos, yet we as a a society are ok with an innocent man being put to death? Is there nothing that will stop us in our daily tasks, and make us take some time to protest? I did not protest either, except online and some emails to friends. But I did spare a few minutes to do something against this execution. Did anyone else? Does anyone else feel bad that this happened?

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/national/south/view/20110924troy_davis_sister_vows_to_carry_on/



Wednesday, December 22nd, 2010
11:38 pm
[ruderod]
A young man volunteers for the service of his country. An intelligent and noble man, he seeks no awards, and seeks no fame. He simply sees injustice, he sees lies. He exposes secrets that he believes should be known to the world. A thing that many have done and will continue to do. Is Bradley Manning a spy, did he sell secrets to the Russians? Probably not, he probably helped expose what he thought was worth exposing. But lets get it put to rest.

So good or bad, this young man needs to be tried in a court of law, not held INDEFINITELY for 211 days. It is called innocent until proven guilty, and everyone in the military and white house that has anything to do with this is showing the world that we in the USA don't do as we say, we don't practice what we preach.

Obviously the White House (and military) wants the world to forget wikileaks, and they want to wait it out. . . .when will we have a fair trial for this young man who served his country?

Give Bradley Manning his chance at trial, NOW. Innocent until proven guilty. This man is a decorated serviceman and deserves some respect.

PASS IT ON.

http://www.bradleymanning.org/15812/speak-out-against-the-inhumane-imprisonment-of-bradley-manning/
Thursday, April 22nd, 2010
3:41 pm
[ruderod]

I read Exxon Mobils yearly summary report. Always interesting to me, the engineering that is going on to tap the last of our non-renewable resources. Interesting also how these corporations spend millions to promote themselves as green companies. 
These reports seem to make you think that indeed we have a unlimited supply of oil, shale, and tar sands.

One thing I agree with in the report.  I agree that indeed, efficieny is going to be important.  As they say "efficiency is the fuel of tomorrow". We absolutely have to be more efficient with EVERYTHING. . . to not is to waste our resources that our children will need tomorrow.

Note I do not have shares of Exxon, I have a family member that has shares and gets the yearly reports.  I urge people to read the reports if you can, they give you idea of the mighty size of the oil industry, its challenges and illusions. There is much to learn in them.  I have also noticed the Exxon reports no longer talk about the "end of oil" as they did ten years ago.  It appears the oil industry does not want us to think that there is a "END" of the oil industry.   Of course there is an end, but someone doesn't want us to worry about that.

They barely mention the terribly inefficient tar sands oil productions. Why so? Read more about what people think. I liked this comment about Exxons tar sands investments:

ahk Anyone who has any illusions about the Canadian tar sands business should take a look at the March issue of National Geographic (click here at ngm.nationalgeographic... ), not normally a prime source of financial and economic news for me. I’m not a fanatic, sandal wearing, organic bean sprout eating environmentalist, but just looking at the glossy, eye opening pictures tells you that this is this an eco disaster of Biblical proportions. A $50 billion investment by several firms over the last decade is now producing 750,000 barrels/day, and another $100 billion was headed north before prices crashed last year

read more http://seekingalpha.com/article/170617/comments#comment-741029
Saturday, August 8th, 2009
10:38 am
[ruderod]
What is legitimate interest?

A lady named Daniel Gordon wrote a response to the accusations that the DOD violated rules. The link to this report is below. Now this is written by a lawyer, she is counsel to someone. In this she explains how the GAO looked into accusations of wrong doing by the DOD. It's clear she was looking for lawful violations, no ethical compromises. In her expose the question becomes, what is the "legistimate interest" of the DOD? Is it in the interest of the DOD to fight a war and win the public opinon of that war, no matter what?
In Daniels letter, she writes:
"Clearly, DOD attempted to favorably influence public opinion with respect to the Administration’s war policies in Iraq and Afghanistan through the RMOs."
She says that twice actually. . .no doubt about it. The DOD attempted to influence. . .but was it illegal? No, depending on your view of "legitimate interest". I don't see it in the interest of the US military to even MONITOR public opinion about a war.

Why should my taxpayer money go to kill civilians in Iraq? That is bad enough, but why do my taxes also go to a contractor (named Omnitec) that gives the DOD a pulse of the public opinion? Why are we paying for that? Isn't that what our local, state, and federal representatives are for? They monitor public opinion by getting letters in the mail. Then they report to congress.

Again Mrs. Gordon does a good legal job of explaining things. She even points out that is all she is doing. . explaing the legal issues. She writes:
"This opinion does not examine whether the RMO outreach program resulted in a competitive advantage for RMOs or compromised DOD procurement with RMO-affiliated defense contractors."

Exactly. . .it's all about did you break the law. Well I think the laws need to be changed. The military has no business knowing if a war is popular or not. We the citizens of the United States and our elected representatives will do that job. The militarys job is to fight wars. Oh wait, it's the "Department of Defense". They only defend the country, not fight wars. Hey they even have some of that media spin in their name. How clever! The DOD, which means we only defend. . .yeah right.

But there lies the problem. Warfare is secret, so how does the military discuss the doings of war? It selectively does it, that's how. The military rarely if ever shows the dead children, they don't show the destroyed church. They only show the radar picture of a taliban fort being blown up. What do you all think? Do you think the military has a interest in showing their version of the war? Well DOD contractors sure do have an interest in it.

"Omnitec Contract at 15--16. The contract provided that Omnitec would report how coverage reflected, or failed to reflect, DOD’s stated policies or views. Id. Typical Omnitec reports list names of RMOs who provided commentary during a given period of time, summarize the commentary, and provide excerpts of transcripts of the RMOs’ comments.16
We learned from DOD Comptroller’s office that between November 2004 and October 2007, DOD paid Omnitec Solutions $1,837,989. We also identified 19 civilian public affairs staff and 3 active military personnel involved in the RMO outreach program at various times between fiscal years 2002 and 2008, including two assistant secretaries and one Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Public Affairs."

http://www.gao.gov/decisions/appro/316443.pdf

Does the media influence the war? This photo of a burned child and families fleeing their homes is a historic photo. Media play of this single photo helped bring about a huge wave of anti-war effort towards the Vietnam conflict.
Note: A parent my notice the children are walking funny. That is because the kids have burns on their arms. . painful burns.


Saturday, August 1st, 2009
8:17 am
[ruderod]
sign this petition to give workers a voice. Stop corporations from abusing employees:
http://www.petitiononline.com/efca2009/petition.html

information on freechoice act.
Thursday, June 25th, 2009
11:26 pm
[ruderod]
Stop buying Chinese goods! China continues to jail and arrest people who voice any opinion of the big brother Chinese government. Make them hear you! Stop your purchases of anything "Made in China". There are alternatives to chinese made goods! This guy Xiaobo was under house arrest for several month, now the men in black haul him off to jail. If only a few houses on every street stop buying Chinese, the government will get the message that their country will not prosper this way. I noticed the Chinese are trying to edit wikipedia and label Xiaobo as a wacko professor who just wants fame. Nice try.

http://english.rti.org.tw/Content/GetSingleNews.aspx?ContentID=81448&BlockID=31

Taiwan's government has expressed concern over the arrest of a leading Chinese dissident named Liu Xiaobo.

Liu was detained last December just before the publication of a document that he co-authored calling for political change in China. Liu was charged with spreading rumors, defaming the government and inciting subversion. China's official Xinhua News Agency has confirmed his arrest.Read more...Collapse )
Tuesday, June 9th, 2009
6:47 am
[ruderod]
If only I had some free time, I might read this book about the environment:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0520243285/ref=cm_pdp_srp_img_2

Ahh, someday when I have time (or enough money to waste time). I believe the concept. When you are worried about the amount of cash you have, you tend to ignore the environment. I catch myself doing it as well. See on every other friday I have to drive the van (vanpool) as no one else is going to work. Sometimes I drive it by myself, damn well knowing that thing is a gas guzzler. Compared to my honda GX natural gas car, it's like taking a lear-jet to work instead of a Cessna propeller plane. Yet I do it because it's cheaper! It's less wear and tear on my car, and I don't have to pay for gas or the toll roads. Yet I know my once small economic decision is adding to my carbon footprint. . .it's wasting resources yet its cheaper for me.

I think awareness is one solution. People need to understand that we all don't want to destroy the earth, but we end up doing it anyway. One drop here, another drop there, and soon you have a river of waste and destruction that adds up. We make a river and it carves out ecosystems and drowns out species. We have to stop doing that, each and every one of us. How do we stop? How do we come to understand that our actions are leading to a planet that we won't our children to live in?
What is the answer?
Saturday, June 6th, 2009
4:33 am
[ruderod]
Whether you are aware or not, for many years we have lived with "government owned corporations". These are organizations that are not government nor private corporations. They are somewhere between. They use federal tax money to survive, yet dodge the pesky rules and oversight other government agencies have to deal with. Some examples are the US Postal Service, the Securities and Exchange Commission, the Federal Reserve, and the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA).

There is no doubt that many think these corporations are ok. Some say not to worry, some have few problems with their existence. The post office is an example of good government owned corporation, right? Maybe, maybe not. Take a look at the majority of these organizations, and they will have you wonder. . .how did this come about? These things make me worry. I have been freaked out ever since I read up on the "Corporation of London". A city ran by a corporation. That sounds so big brother it's not even funny. So what is wrong with these things?

Before we go there, maybe an example will help. At lunch today I was talking to a peer about city assets. The topic was that people come to believe these assets are "theirs" and they have been granted "ownership". In reality the assets are the people of Anaheim, Riverside, or whatever city you are from. Yet people come to think of them as their own. They make up new rules and hidden agendas on how those assets are used. In our conversation, we discussed how this is a good thing, at times. Yet when people become obsessed with ownership, things often get ugly. Examples were departments become at odds, not helping each other on the same type of projects. These things happen and they waste tax payer money. They happen ALL the time, and not just in city government where we know the ropes.

So we know people make up their own rules. Even where they have no authority, people do it anyway. Whether it is the local city, the feds, or the CIA (a government owned corporation). The next logical conclusion is that if you have organziation that have even less rules, there will be even MORE people making up their own little agendas and hidden policies. My guess is that is the case at the CIA, the MCC, and many of the other fake government groups. My problem is that I REALLY like some rules on how our government money is spent. I always think if you don't have rules, people make up their own rules. So that is why I like having some accountability. We need to know what people are doing with tax money. Yet it seems that these corporations where setup for the most part to avoid something. They are avoiding rules! Most of these corporations enjoy budgetary freedoms that are absent at other government agencies. Take the CIA. You can't figure out where they spent their billions of dollars last year. You can't even tell if they spent more money in Africa than in Latin America. It is hidden. And the federal reserve, nope they won't tell you all the details on their budgets either. Why should they, they technically are not part of the government!

In summary, read up on these groups. Keep these in mind when you pay your taxes, that some of your money will have absolutely no accounting of where it goes! Whether it is the MCC (government owned company that donates money to other countries humanitarian programs) or the Federal Reserve. In reality, it's more difficult to sue them, they have little oversight, yet they get paid by you and me the taxpayer. I don't like the government owned corporations.

READ THIS FOR MORE ON FGC (federal government owned corporation):

"Whether an FGC is characterized public or private affects its legal relationship with the rest of the world: the President, Congress, the public, and even its own directors. Its status as a public or private body shapes the rights and remedies of any person who has a legal or commercial relationship with the corporation, whether she is employed by it, transacts with it, competes with it, makes a contract with it, is injured by it, or commits a fraud upon it. Either way, an FGC's liberty to abuse its powers faces fewer practical or even theoretical constraints than comparable institutions.


Perhaps by design, private and mixed-ownership FGCs are significantly less accountable to Congress than agencies. Because they have alternate sources of funding--debt, equity, or revenue from transactions--Congress's power of the purse is lessened.{261} In addition, because private directors of an FGC do not hold civil office under the Constitution, they are not impeachable. Nevertheless, Congress's leverage over FGCs contains both carrots--removing restrictions on an FGC's activities and providing direct funding--and sticks-- adding new restrictions, subjecting the FGC to regulation, and abolishing the FGC entirely."

http://osaka.law.miami.edu/~froomkin/articles/reinvent.htm#xtocid291712
Wednesday, April 15th, 2009
9:00 pm
[ruderod]
The tax protest was fun and informative. I asked several people why they where there, what really has pissed them off. Most of them said the "stimulus". One man said they are creating an elite class, and a poor working class. . .we will end up with a slave/tyrant system. Another said that there is no way he could be convinced the US will ever get out of debt. . .he sounded like he was an accountant, he said the USA is 235 trillion in debt? Wow.

One old man told me that the tax rate during the time of the Boston Tea party was 13% percent. . . and then they tried to tax the tea! He also read to me some from the book "The federalist papers". I will have to try to get that book. Funny because I was pissed last week at the 9% fast food tax we have to pay now! It's ridiculous.
Another protestor had a sign for vicki weaver. She was a victim at ruby ridge: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lon_Horiuchi
Another sign read "My child is not an ATM". Another "Why even work?"

One ex-submariner said that the military should be cut back if it is wasteful, and that the constitution only provides for the "common defense" of
the country.







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bigger versions of the photos:

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Sunday, March 1st, 2009
11:39 am
[ruderod]
I watched "Ax-men" this morning on HDTV. They talked about the loss of jobs. . .I did a little research, it seems the unemployment in logging there is massive. I read it is partly related to the housing downturn, and also China is not buying paper products like they where. Basically the world economy is slowing down, and it's effecting them big time.
As for the show, it seemed to show the human side of logging, and you could see clearcut forests in the background. Do they talk about the little birds and animals that live in the trees? Probably not.
Do they talk about how humans get knees all screwed up, and hurt backs, even though they are using big machines to log? Oh yes. It seems a tough business and I liked the show. At minimum Ax-men gives people a refresher on where wood comes from, whether it is toilet paper or your new couch. It all comes from trees, and we all need to be aware of the consequences. Timber is a renewable resource ONLY if done correctly. And usually production exceeds renewal. Which means we lose forests faster than they regrow.

http://www.dailyastorian.com/main.asp?SectionID=2&SubSectionID=398&ArticleID=58595&TM=69307.48
Saturday, December 27th, 2008
9:20 pm
[ruderod]



The average salary for congress is $169,000.00 per year. And they just gave themselves a pay raise. What a great democracy. . .it's all just an illusion it seems at times. And do they raise minimum wage? How is this good for America, how was their pay raise last year good for America?

This has to stop. The fleecing of America has to STOP at the TOP!!! Get up, call your friends, tell your neighbors we will NOT let main street America corrode as our taxpayers money is used recklessly!

This just in from the rewarding failure dept.: With an approval rating worse than the President's, deficit spending at new heights, and the economy in the tank, Congress gives themselves an increase in pay.
http://blogs.indystar.com/varvelblog/index.html
Sunday, December 14th, 2008
7:02 pm
[ruderod]
michael moore but with accurate statistics.
About 1-2 million children will die from malaria every year. Mr Sachs notes that there about 300 million children in these areas that need nets for their beds. At a cost of about $5.00, they are good for five years. He notes that the US military could pay for this in just one day of spending. . one day of our military budget, you could give mosquito nets to those 1-2 million children. We put 16cents per 100 dollars towards foriegn aid, the lowest ratio of all the high income nations.

"we are now spending every day over 1.5 billon dollars on the military in the united states"

Saturday, December 13th, 2008
11:06 am
[ruderod]
Around 500 migrating ducks are either dead or dying after they landed in an Alberta pond that is owned by oil-sands company Syncrude Canada Ltd.
They were just being ducks as they landed on the pond. They did not know the small body of water was full of toxic sludge. Now, the ducks are either dead or dying.

The pond is owned oil-sands company Syncrude Canada Ltd.

The CNN report says that the oil-sands firm is working with Alberta officials to rescue the birds; however, the small lake full of toxic sludge is hampering rescue efforts.

Alberta Premier Ed Stelmach is wondering why noise-making cannons were not deployed to scare the waterfowl away from the pond filled with oil-sands wastes.

"Many of them will die as a result of this incident," Syncrude spokesman Alain Moore said.

The birds landed on the pond Monday. Alberta Environment Minister Rob Renner feels that it is doubtful that any of the birds can be saved.


read more about the tar-sands.
http://forums.canadiancontent.net/canadian-culture/75124-canada-s-toxic-tar-sands.html

Found! here are high res photos and google earth links to fort Mcmurray tar-sand pit mines
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/8503177

if you have google earth, click below to view the aerial map of suncor mine and refinery.
http://www.panoramio.com/panoramio.kml?user=1494798&LANG=en_US.utf8








Sunday, December 7th, 2008
12:04 pm
[ruderod]
Our Destructive Love of Stuff

by Leonard Pitts Jr.

I like stuff as much as the next guy. My closet is stuffed with stuff, my shelves groan with stuff, boxes full of stuff jam my garage. I like stuff just fine.

But I would not kill for it.

Last week, a 34-year-old man was trampled to death by a mob rushing into a Wal-Mart to buy stuff. Jdimytai Damour was a seasonal worker manning the door of a store in Valley Stream, N.Y., as shoppers eager for so-called ''Black Friday'' bargains massed outside. The store was scheduled to open at 5 a.m., but that was not early enough for the 2,000 would-be shoppers. At five minutes before the hour, they were banging their fists and pressing their weight against the glass doors, which bowed and then broke in a shower of glass. The mob stormed in.

Four people, including a pregnant woman, were injured. And Damour was killed as people stomped over him, looking for good prices on DVDs, winter coats and PlayStations. Nor was the mob sobered by his death. As authorities sought to clear the store, some defiantly kept shopping; others complained that they had been on line since the night before.

And here, it seems appropriate to observe the obvious irony: Black Friday is the traditional beginning of the Christmas shopping season, Christmas being the holiday when, Christians believe, hope was born into the world in the form of a baby who became a man who preached a gospel of service to, and compassion for, our fellow human beings.

It is hard to see evidence of either in the mob's treatment of Jdimytai Damour, and if your inclination is to heap scorn upon them, I don't blame you. But I would caution against regarding them as freaks or aberrations whose callous madness would never be seen in sane and normal people like ourselves. That would be false comfort.

You may think I'm talking about mob psychology and to a degree, I am. From soccer riots to the Holocaust itself, human beings have always had a tendency to lose individual identity and accountability when gathered in groups. You will do things as part of a crowd that you never would as an individual. Theoretically, anyone who lacked a strong-enough moral center and sense of self could have been part of that mob in Valley Stream.

But it's not just our common vulnerability to mob psychology that ties the rest of us to last week's tragedy. It is also our common love of stuff. Indeed, it is hard to imagine a starker illustration of our true priorities. Oh, we pay lip service to other things. We say children are a priority, but when did people ever press against the door for Parents' Night at school? We say education is a priority, but when did people ever bang against the windows of the library? We say faith is a priority, but when did people ever surge into a temple of worship as eagerly as they do a temple of commerce?

No, sale prices on iPods, that's our true priority. Jdimytai Damour died because too many of us have bought, heart and soul, into the great lie of American consumerism: acquiring stuff will make you whole. ''You, Happier,'' is how a sign at my local Best Buy puts it. As if owning a Jonas Brothers CD, an Iron Man DVD, a Sony HDTV, will elevate you to a level of joy otherwise impossible to attain. Hey, you may be a total loser, may not have a friend, may not have an education, may not have a job, may not have a clue, but it will all be OK as soon as you get that new Canon digital camera, especially if you get it for 50 percent off.

It would be nice to think -- I will not hold my breath -- that Damour's death would lead at least some of us to finally see that for the obscene lie it is, to realize that seeking wholeness in consumer goods is an act of emptiness, not joy.

You, Happier? No.

Just you, with more stuff.

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2008/12/03-7
Friday, December 5th, 2008
1:05 pm
[ruderod]
Monday, November 24th, 2008
8:17 am
[ruderod]

On this link here http://cmsxperts.com/20081102-370.php you can read about this months DDOS attack on both wordpress and livejournal.  The attack happened around November 2nd.  Is it of concern that two major blogs were hit by a DDOS during the last weeks of a four year election?  To me it says something. . .I am not exactly sure but I have some ideas.  One idea is that someone is testing.   A test is being conducted.   The test is either:
1.  A test to see what effect a major blog being down causes.   Meaning mostly a social test, a prodding to see the reaction.  To see how people react, even if the site is down for the part of a day.  Do people react?  Can they live without their web friends and news sources?
2.  A test of DDOS software. . .meaning someone is actually checking the effectiveness of their DDOS army.   A test to see if in fact their software zombies are effective at shutting down a major website(s).

Both of these scenarios are quite alarming.  From my knowledge of modern computer security, it is not trivial for a group of friends to take down major blogs like livejournal or wordpress.   Even if two friends control a army of a hundred zombie computers, they still couldn't make a dent in the traffic of large blogs like lj or wordpress.  It takes multiple hundreds or thousands of zombie computers to do this. Who has control of thousands of zombie computers?   Well there are a few groups of organized crime, there maybe a few rogue hackers/enterpreneurs, there is a few covert government programs I bet, and besides that. . .. nobody.  No one group has that many computers in their control.   So who killed livejournal/wordpress?   Who took down livejournal?   Why would someone do this?  And maybe most importantly, does anyone care?  Was the FBI notified and did they do anything about it?  

I write this because of last night, several weeks after the last attack,  I tried to get to livejournal.  I couldn't get to livejournal.com.  Again this was on a Sunday.    What is up with the Sunday DDOS attacks?   Are groups of people still using DDOS to kill livejournal?  What do these two sites have in common (wordpress and livejournal)?  Why would anyone do this attack?  Think about the content of both of these sites.  Millions of peoples ideas and concerns that are viewed and exchanged.   These sites have contentious content where people express their thoughts on race, equality, capitalism, and the governments that rule the world.   I have a third idea. . .. and I hope this isn't what is happening.  Is it possible there is a conspiracy here. . .a hidden agenda by a government or group of people (leaders/elites/stakeholders) to lower the voice of dissent on these websites?

Read up on DDOS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial-of-service_attack
Sunday, November 2nd, 2008
6:09 pm
[ruderod]
The two Iraqi parliamentarians sat side-by-side at the front of a packed chamber, facing the panel of U.S. Congress members. Sheik Al-Ulayyan wore a traditional white headdress and thawb (similar to a robe), Dr. Al-Jaberi a dark suit and red tie. They spoke in turn, responding to the members’ questions in calm, deliberate Arabic, and pausing now and then for translation by the interpreters seated at their sides. The committee members were predictably curious: How many Iraqis want the U.S. to leave their country? Perhaps 70 percent, Dr. Al-Jaberi estimated. And if we pull out? Iraq can handle its own affairs, replied Sheik Al-Ulayyan. For more than an hour they answered questions, and with each response they were quietly breaking new ground.

Read more:
http://www.afsc.org/quaker-action/ht/d/ContentDetails/i/68101




Sunday, October 12th, 2008
7:07 pm
[ruderod]
I should have been a lobbyist. If anyone thinks corporate america doesn't really influence, read this. Now that is serious money these lobbyists get paid.
http://lobbyistsformccain.com/

Over 60 lobbysists on mccains campaign. Holy corporate democracy.
http://www.americablog.com/2008/09/obama-lobbyist-chairs-mccains-campaign.html
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